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And one of principalities, powers, rulers of darkness, spiritual wickedness is Roman Catholic Church. Once again I would clarify, it has nothing to do against you, you and I are sheep, but it has something very serious against that institution, that church, that office of papacy, who has deceived many people.

I do against the spirits who captive you, who control you. Do you know that:

• If you go to prostitute place, you will find spirit of immorality, adultery;
• If you go to witch or supranatural agent, you will find evil spirit, spirit of witchcraft;
• If you go to bar or night life cafe, you will find spirit of drunkeness, addiction, etc.
• If you go the church, I mean the real church, you will find Spirit of God dwelling there.

Or even within you yourself. Have you got drunk so much? Can you control yourself, your mind, your body? Have you watched porn movie? Don't you feel something called lust, desire arise within your heart until it become so much, and you can't resist it. You go and embarassed yourself when you get drunk, or you do masturbation or even worse do free sex with your sin partner, orgies, etc. You called it animal insting, I called it, 'possessed' by evil spirits. Yes, now.

I did the same for my own churches, my own people through my articles entitle Are you Pharisee or Scribe or... and Are you Hypocrite or God's child? You can say that my religion is false when you see some preachers preach for money, that's true. No religion could lead us to the knowledge of the Truth. That's why Jesus came to this world to give us His Gospel (Good Message) that can lead us to heaven. But he never taught us to be religious people, NOPE, he taught us to be his disciples by following the Word of God, written in the Bible. We are saved by faith, not because good deeds. But faith need to be proven from what you do as well. Faith without deeds is dead. Am I right?

As a normal human being, I myself still lack in many things, I still have so many rooms for improvement. I want to learn more and more. A journey of thousands miles begins with a single step. No improvement can be obtained if we didn't move, and harsh and severe condition could help us to improve greatly, I would rather choose that way through my posting. But before we move any further, allow me to ask your belief. Do you believe that Jesus is the only way leads to heaven? I myself believe so much in this matter. How about you?

John 14:6

And the second questions is: Do you agree with me that the way to heaven is never easy, Jesus himself use word 'strive'? Does strive mean easily gained, e.g: only by being baptized, only by being in communion every Sunday, once in our life join catechism class, married in the church, died in the church, even with letter from Vatican? Does that strive mean? Do you agree with me that it is not strive? Was Jesus lying when He said so? Is Jesus or your preacher who lying? Going to heaven is never easy, we need to strive and through many hardships to enter the kingdom of God (Acts 14:22)

If you are not agree with me, please stop reading further, because it will only lead to more and more arguments, more and more quarrels, more and more ungodliness. Only sincere heart who can go to heaven which when rebuke or correction comes, it won't be sceptical but dilligently search the Truth by asking 'God of heaven and earth, is this young man, Alvin, telling us the truth with his article or he just a mad man?'  

I consider many of you never done what I will present later, you just pray and worship Jesus. That's good, I am happy to hear that. In christianity, you can differenciate between hypocrite and genuine born again Christian. The same thing is valid in Catholic, maybe you are not too deep in their practice, you just follow what they taught, but not 100% obedient to its teaching. I would call you as moderate, lukewarm, serving 2 masters, but in this case, I rejoice in my heart to know you are such that person, since I have chance to open your eyes.

One more thing, even though Catholic Church believed to be only one, but in fact, there are also denominations in it, such as Roman Catholic Church, Catholic Church, Catholic Charismatic, etc. What I will try to explain is only Roman Catholic Church, with its Pope and Mary worshipper.

If you think that you are God's children (Christians or Catholics), 100% sure, Jesus is the one and only Saviour, please do not joke with God, my friends. You who live arrogantly, ignorantly because your pastor teach you that 'once saved forever saved', you think no matter how much sins you have commited, in the end, God will still justify you just because once in a lifetime, you have invited Jesus and been baptized, but your life stays the same, no regeneration. You are too naive, my friends. 

7 x 24 hours minus 2 hours (fellowship in the church) you live like pagans a week. You just 'maintain' your holy life in the church, after that, you go again into the world and love the world, accept everything the world gives you, and you said you are genuine Christian. I am pity you. You are joking with God, not men.

1 Thessalonians 4:7-8

You think you are strong enough, rich enough, great enough, you don't need God's grace, God's mercy in your life. The same thing will apply in heaven after you end your quest in this world. God doesn't necessarily need you in His dwelling place. My friends, please listen to me: You need to serve God only.

My brothers and sisters, now is not too late for you to leave, this is my 3rd recommendation, feel free to see my other posting, avoid posting with controversial label on it!

Here is my first step, my controversial posting (if you choose to read, read till the end). PS: I never accuse something without strong proof, you need to see the link I provided for more revelation. I did research, did interview, and most important things, I did compare all my literatures with Bible.

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Have you been questioned in your Primary school about True/False Questions? Do you miss that moment? I want to ask you some questions, you are free to answer, just answer quietly, you don't need to tell anybody else about your answer, just between you and God. But there is only one correct answer for each question according to Bible point of view.

PS: I don't care about any other doctrines, philosophies, textbook, and any other wisdom of the world, so please, if you are not agree with my answer here because of your human wisdom, just go and leave, block me as your friends (after you read fully all of my writing). Leave no comments based on your own judgment. I don't need it.

Once again: Go and leave no comment, may the Spirit of God disturb you again and again until you said, 'God, it is enough, I don't want you to disturb me again'. Your blood is upon your head, not mine. I have saved my soul from your iniquities.

Ezekiel 3:18-19

When I say to the wicked, You shall surely die; and you give him not warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at your hand. Yet if you warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered your soul.

 

#First Question: What should the cross look like?

 But can you see this picture?

See that cross, isn't it inverted cross, antichrist symbol? Was it not CNN live? How can Roman Catholic Church related with inverted cross? Maybe there is some manipulation with this picture, you can see more in video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-y8jF25scU

For more detail about antichrist symbol: http://www.exposingsatanism.org/signsymbols.htm

Their argument: inverted cross is based on Peter crucification, he invertedly crucified. But let me ask you something, is Jesus' cross or Peter's cross which lead to salvation? Is Jesus or Peter your Saviour?

Again you reasoned 'That was Pope John Paul II, Pope could be wrong, now the CHURCH already back to Christ'. Ok, go and look in front of your mirror, and do what you usually do after you pray, touch your forehead, your center of chest (heart), your left shoulder then right shoulder. In the name of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost. What do you see? You make inverted cross again, antichrist symbol again, You said your CHURCH already has changed. No, they are not. They are trying to mislead you, my friends.

 

#Second Question: Which one who has pure, holy, blameless, without sin heart?

Does Bible say that Mary has the same heart like Jesus? Mary and the saints have lived very faithful lives, I am very agree, but each of them finally died and never rose up again. That means they are human being, like us. We are human but Jesus is God, How can human be in equality with God? On the third day after his crucifixion and death, He resurrected, Jesus is alive, Mary is not. Mary can't be compared with Jesus. She is much lower than Jesus. she was just a humble servant. She herself said 'I am the Lord's servant, may it be to be as you have said.' (Luke 1:38, 48)

Mary need to be respected by us, but not worshipped. Jesus is a Jew, patriarch. His genealogy come from the man (Joseph). Joseph is decendant of Abraham, of David, not Mary. Read your Bible in Matthew 1. What don't you worship Joseph as well? Let Joseph and Mary pray for you. Two are better than one. Imagine, Jesus' father and mother help pray for you. Isn't it wonderful? I am asking you to worship Jesus only, is that blasphemy? 

#Third Question: Which one was raised up to heaven?

 

Since when Mary was raised up physically to heaven like Jesus? Does Bible tell so? Please do not make such argument by telling there is no bones, no tomb. Too absurb for me. I had a dog which died and buried 8 years ago, I know the place where I buried him. Do you think if I dig it again I would see my dog's bones? Can I really say that my dog was raised up to heaven? You said, you have faith, faith need to have strong base as well. Bible and Holy Spirit are the bases for your faith. Is their arguments written in the Bible or not?

Some people thought they met Holy Spirit through Mary apparitions (Bernadeth in Loudres), etc, but if their testimonies contradicted with Bible, what are those then? Those are evil spirits. Don't you know that Satan can disguise himself into an angel of light?

2 Corinthians 11:14

And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

My friends, reading the Bible without Holy Spirit could only lead to confusion, in the end, you will just justified yourself with the Bible. How can blind lead other blind? They will both fall into the ditch.

 

#Fourth Question: Which one is King of kings, Lord of lords?

But why Mary sits on the throne which suppose to be belong to Jesus? Is something wrong here? Do you know that our God is a jealous God? He will never ever share his glory to other. Is Mary your God? You said Mary is Jesus' mother. Agree, but that was in flesh. Jesus had no father (in flesh) and have no mother (in heaven realm). Do you get it?

Why there is always yellow circle like a sun behind every saints' head? Don't tell me, it is god of Sun. Moses had radiant face, but that was in his face, not behind his head.

to see what is that, please click here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPAzBO-c9c8&feature=related (please see this)

 

#Fifth Question: Which one is Word of God? 

Then why your Bible always stay on your shelf, never been read? Why you go to church with Catholic book of Prayers? Why Bible verses are always put in the liturgy but not the songs' lyric? Shouldn't it is put vice versa? Put the songs' lyric in the liturgy and bring the Bible to the church. Is that not the correct one? Think about it!! Please say not Bible is heavier than another book as your answer.

 

#Sixth Question: Which one is worthy to be praised, honored, glorified by men?

#Seventh Question: Which one should be worshipped by men?

 

INVISIBLE GOD

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NO IMAGE

 

Can the Creator of heaven and earth be kept in his own creation, even his own creation's creation like this statue? Must God be seen by your eyes to be believed by you? Learn from the wind, you can't see it, but you can feel it. The same thing with God.

Acts 7:49-50

Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. What kind of house can you build for me,’ declares the Lord, “or what place is there in which I can rest? It was my hand that made all these things, wasn't it?

 

Do not be deceived, maybe this one is your religion, you think you are worshipping God, but I tell you the truth, NOPE, you are not. You, by your institution, are led to do something against God unconciously. Please read your Bible and see, my friends. Maybe right now you are not aware that you are walking in the wrong path, turn back and find the truth!!

 

Now maybe you are shocked and confused, you don't believe your own eyes, or maybe you still don't believe me, you think I fabricated these lies, then please continue to read further.

 

For more detail about act of worship, e.g: kissing Pope hand, etc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d9hS2fSSM0 

Matthew 23:9

And don't call anyone on earth ‘Father,’ for you have only one Father, the one in heaven

You know what Pope means? Pope literally means Papa (Father). http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pope. You will not acknowledge him with the same attitude like you do to your own father, right? He is worthy to get more respect than any other else, isn't he? If he is more than any person in this planet, even George Bush bow down before him. Is he then in the same level with God himself?

If not, why you call him 'Holy Father'? Is not that act of worship? Don't you know that by saying 'Pope, Holy Father, Pope, Holy Father, bless us.' You are already against Matthew 23:9. You put yourself in danger of wrath of God.

Do not agree with me? Pope is not Holy Father? Then please look here with your own eyes how the wikipedia declare that Holy Father is Pope (point no 2 and 3)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Father 

Please consider and think about it, my friends. I am not trying to condemn you, I want you to share the glory of the Living God with me, in Jesus only.

 

Now, looked at the bent cross in the hand of Pope. What does it mean? 

 

Again I quote from one literature, it is a sinister symbol, used by Satanists in the sixth century, that had been revived at the time of Vatican Two. This was a bent or broken cross, on which was displayed a repulsive and distorted figure of Christ, which the black magicians and sorcerers of the Middle Ages had made use of to represent the Biblical term 'Mark of the Beast'. Yet, not only Paul VI, but his successors, the two John-Pauls, carried that object and held it up to be revered by crowds, who had not the slightest idea that it stood for anti-Christ."http://www.cuttingedge.org/articles/rc100.htm

The Church, not you...like to see Jesus always hang on the cross dead, never rise up. They would never admit that Jesus has risen up and sit next to God the Father. My friends, stop being ignorant!! Open your eyes and see, Be wise!! Jesus died on the cross as atonement for your sin, He has risen. Be awake from your sleep, open your eyes and see. In Jesus' name. Think about this seriously!!

Hebrews 9:25  

 

Do I still fail to open your eyes? Inverted cross and this sinister symbol can't convince you? You even think that I am crazy? You yourself know what that symbols mean. Why are you still ignorant? You need more prove? Ok, I will give you more.

 

Now, let's talk about idolatry, maybe in your mind, idols need to be scary, bloody, devilish beast. What do you think about this? 

For more type of idolatries, you can refer to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_I5pGaoF28&feature=related

Ok, you can say: 'It is not idol, we don't worship it. That's just an ornament in our home to symbolize that we are Catholic family, to make our home look holier, it is the same like Christian with their Bible, praying continually'. Ok, you can say that again. But how about this?

Is this only an ornament to make your home holier? Don't you see that people pray earnessly? Is it not act of worship? You reason that statue is Jesus' mother, should be honored with double or even 1000-ple respect. Ok, you can say that again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubu333QvYNc. But how about this?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_voudNl-T0&feature=related

Are they not worshipping the Pope's statue too? Do you still reason that you don't do that? If you never do that, good, I rejoice in my heart to know that. But please be careful because your church, your institution, they try to mislead you, to make you against God. They want you to offense the second commandment in decalogue: You shall not make to you any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Do not worship Mary and Pope, my friends. God alone who is worthy to be praised. He is a jealous God. 

How can pope dead body still be worshipped? Do you not believe me? Please check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRovwHuiO1s

 

How about that circle bread, that you receive every Mass?

Do you know that symbolized the god of sun that was worshipped by Egyptians?

Look also at the rod in the Pope's hand. It looks similar with the sun relic above, doesn't it? Wow, even Pope himself worship the god of sun. Just think a bit, if the shepherd worship the other god, what will he teach to the sheep? Are you not aware that at the moment they are trying to mislead you to follow them? My friends, don't be deceived any longer.

See here the corelation between god of sun and catholic chuch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10Qek976XBo&feature=related

 

Or here for more detail one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB4tyRIROeA&feature=related

Look at this bread, round like the sun, is not it? If you ate it, you unconciously are worshipping the god of sun, worship Baal. The church said, you personized Jesus to this bread. I said you meditated to personize Baal (god of sun) to this bread and you ate it.

Maybe up until now, you never ask why you do this and that, why you go to church bringing the Catholic book of prayers not Bible? Why, why, why? It is because they don't want you to be like Martin Luther again. You yourself should know, which one was right? Roman Catholic at that time or Martin Luther? The church who sold indulgence letter and taught Purgatory doctrine or man who said that men are justified only by faith. Which one who based on Bible?

You think your church has changed to the right direction? NOPE, they are still in the same error. They are trying to make you never read the Bible because they are afraid that if you read the Bible, your eyes will be opened and you will escape from them.  My friends, open your Bible, invite Jesus to come to your heart, ask for Holy Spirit to enable you to understand Holy Bible.

 

 How about Mass (Eucharist)? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucharist_in_the_Catholic_Church

You attend it every Sunday, even most of you come to the church just to join the Mass. Many of you think that if you received the wine and the bread every week, you are saved. You have been deceived, my friends. Those things don't mean anything, they just the same like the food and water you eat or drink everyday. Physical things can't save your life, you need spiritual thing, you need Holy Spirit of God.

This is what they teach you : The consecrated bread and wine which according to the faith become the body and blood of Christ. 

How can bread and wine transform into the body and blood of Jesus? By faith? You know what faith means? Faith is being sure what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. That's faith. But why, your church want to personize the blood and body into the bread and wine literally? That contradict the faith.

Must you see first then you would like to believe? You are lack of faith if you do that. Should Jesus be personified first into statue? Should you pray through Mary because you think Mary can ask to her Son more easily? Should Jesus' body and blood be representated by bread and wine first? Where is your faith, my friends?

Hebrews 11:6

Now without faith it is impossible to please God, for the one who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who diligently search for him.

The Bread of Life and the Lamb of God's blood are the things that save your life, not the bread and wine. The Bread of Life is this, if you eat His Word, read your Bible continually, it is as sweet as honey in your mouth, if you pray to your Father in heaven, it will refresh your soul, like a river of living water in your life to ease your thirty. You will never be hungry and thirsty anymore. That's it, no other argument. The Last Supper is just as remembrance of Jesus, but lead not to salvation, the same thing with Water Baptism, just to fulfill the Scripture. 

By doing mass, once again, you unconciously, repeat the day before Jesus was crucified and died. You unconciously involve in his crucification again and again, you unconciously send his to Golgota every week. Jesus' body and Jesus' blood need to be spilt out again and again for your sin. You unconsiously are the same as the Pharisees who shouted 'Crucify him!! Crucify him!! You curse your own God, my friends.

Please, my friends...consider what I said and think about it. Ask God, 'Is this crazy man, Alvin, tell me the truth?

 

 How about incense?

http://landru.i-link-2.net/shnyves/incense_offering.htm

Isaiah 1:13

Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination to me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting. 

Their argument: Incense is for offering for God, that will ascend to heaven. It was one of 3 gifts from the Magi, gold, myrrh, and incense.

What kind offering God want from you? It is not incense, it is not some events (sabbaths, new moons), it is not your wealth. What He want from you is yourself, your heart, 100% believe in Him, depend on Him, surrender on Him, always involve Him in every steps you make. Jesus want you to have good personal relationship with Him.

Hosea 6:6

For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.

• If you go to church because you think by accepting the Mass, you already took part in His Body and Blood;
• If you think by offering the incense, you already thought that God has already presented in the midst of people there;
• If you think by being in Communion with other believers every Sunday, you already fulfilled the Scripture;
• If you think by being baptized, you already received your heaven; you are too naive, my friends.

Is Jesus telling us lies when He said, Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say to you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able?

 

 WAKE UP, MY FRIENDS, DO NOT BE DECEIVED ANYMORE!!

 

Have you read in the Bible that you will never inherit Kingdom of God by doing those things? You will end up being an idolater (Mary, Pope, Baal worshipper) rather than believer, if you keep staying in that Roman Catholic Church.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

You know that wicked people will not inherit the kingdom of God, don't you? Stop deceiving yourselves! Sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, homosexuals, thieves, greedy people, drunks, slanderers, and robbers will not inherit the kingdom of God. That is what some of you were! But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God

Galatians 5:19-21  

Now the works of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity, promiscuity, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, rivalry, jealously, outbursts of anger, quarrels, conflicts, factions, envy, murder, drunkenness, wild partying, and things like that. I am telling you now, as I have told you in the past, that people who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God  

My beloved friends, wake up from your dream, from your imaginary heaven, heaven that never exist. As God said

Revelation of John 18:4-6

And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double to her double according to her works: in the cup which she has filled fill to her double.

My friends, believe only in Jesus because He is the only one who can save you. He is your true Shepherd, who are willing to die for us, who sacrifice Himself for you on the cross. Not like that Church with its Purgatory. They just want your money. YES, they are shepherd, but they just want to get your wool, your meat for their own interest. They think not about your salvation to heaven. They just want to make themselves richer and richer. Do you know the richest church in the world? It is Vatican. If that church really from God, really love the lost souls, it should give some amount of money to buy some indulgences for helping the lost souls find the heaven, in term of LOVE. Why they don't do that? Why even poor people need to buy indulgences for purgatory. Is it not man-made? Do you think God can be bribed? Bible said very clearly that there are only heaven and hell. No such Purgatory.

My friends, would you just for a moment, imagine

• What if everything that I said is really true?
• What if, Purgatory never exist? Where will you be if in the next 5 minutes you died? Heaven or Hell?
• What if Mary never risen up physically to heaven and given you command to do penance, 5x, 10x, 100x, etc? Is it not what you have done these days just a waste?
• What if that church really want to make you as idolater by worshipping statue, idol, whatever you justified yourself. The point is, you pray in front of statue, not directly to God. Will you be in heaven when you died? If somebody pray in front of big tree or cemetary you will call him 'evil worshipper'. But go and ask him what will he say? He will say, 'Tree is also God's creation. I am more comfortable if I pray in front of this tree to let myself focus more on my God.' If such person you called 'evil worshipper'. Why shouldn't I call you the same? 
• What if your church teach you something wrong? That salvation can't be obtained by doing good, by being baptized in the Church only?

If Salvation can be obtained by good work, Jesus did not necessarily come down from heaven to this earth, even crucified on that cross. Let me ask you why Jesus came down from heaven, if by doing good, people can go to heaven? Just go and believe in other religions believe (prophets, statues, idols, animals, trees, sun, stars). Do you really want to know about Salvation?

Salvation is something that anybody can get for free, NOT just for

• People who are rich enough to buy indulgences, to go to Holy Place (Israel, Mekah, China, Japan, Italy, France, etc),
• People who are lucky enough to be literate, to read some words to be saved (read mantras, etc),
• People who clever enough, to memorize many prayers and verses.
• People who are blessed enough, to understand Hebrew, Greek, Arabic, Chinese, etc
• People who healthy enough, to go up and down 1000 steps of stair, walking thousand miles, climbing the highest mountain.
• People who have enough children to be sacrified for gods.

If to be saved by God, all the things that I said above need to be fulfilled, I will be the first man in the world who proclaim myself as an atheist, I will burn my Bible, and said that God never exist, the ones that exist are only crazy-respect gods, self-centered gods, tyrant.

Well, praise be to the Living God, that He through Jesus, showed us the Way to be closer to Him. Without Jesus, there is no other way to know Him.

Salvation is personal between you and God. You need not to be genius, to be rich, to be well known, famous person to be saved. Salvation is for free, for anybody who desire God mercy and faithfulness. These are the steps you need to do: You just need to open your heart onto the Lord, invite Him to come to your life. Believe in Jesus Christ alone. Repent and ask God forgiveness, Invite him to be your Savior, Lord of your life. Ask his guidance, and He will surely help you. Jesus is knocking at your heart's door. He is waiting for you, He want to be known by you. He is your Creator, the One who know the best for you. 

My friends, go to your room, lock the door, start praying, cried out Jesus' name. Challenge Him with all of your sincere heart by saying that if He really the Living God, do something to your life right there and there. I will tell you that it's not magic. Something great, magical will not happen in a twinkling of an eye, but soon you will have more eagerness to know God, to read Bible, to pray, to have fellowship with other believers.

Just like a baby newly born, after some months, you will try to walk, to speak, to understand. First you are only able to pray few words, that's okay. Keep going, pour out your heart to him, nobody should teach you about how to pray. It's personal, ask Jesus to teach you. It is written in the Bible as well.

At first, Bible seem so difficult, after 1 Chapter, you already confuse, keep going, the more and more you read Bible, God himself minister to you more while you doing that, you will begin to understand. As for someone who really want to know about Jesus, I recommend you to read Gospel of John first followed by Gospel of Luke.

Remember, being born again, is the first step in Christian life, you still just an infant, it would be better for you to start looking for the right church, stay away from that Roman Catholic Church. You will get nothing beneficial from it. Find church where your faith can grow healtily. Then enjoy your relationship with God. I promise you, you will find the real PEACE, that you always lack for your whole life.

 

PS: to all Catholic who are angry with me right now, or have something to discuss, connect to Revelation 17, Roman Catholic Church the Great Whore, and go down the the last paragraph, I have provided so many questions and my answered there. God bless you.