My friends, do you know that symbol has its own meaning and it help us to give a brief overview and basic understand about group, society, or anything? When you are asked to design a symbol for your project, etc. You spent hours, even days, try your best to find the best logo that can fit exactly with what you want to present, to introduce to people so that by looking at your symbol, people will have a glimpe of message you want to pass. Symbol must have meaning, right? For example:
Atheist Group Symbol
Antichrist Symbol
Peace Symbol
But if you see carefully, you will be surprise and wonder, why peace symbol is one of the antichrist symbol? It happened because peace that they try to gather is deceptive peace, the Peace of the World. Peace that will never happened. Bible said that the world will never be in peace, but on contrary it will getting worse and worse.
Matthew 24:7, 12
Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. Because of the increaseofwickedness, the loveofmostwillgrowcold.
The peace that you are looking for can only be obtained in God, in Jesus Christ.
John 14:27
Peace I leave with you, my peace I give to you: not as the world gives, give I to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
I want to make us more aware about other symbol that are there and many of them have bad motive for our faith, since conciously or unconciously, they have their own purpose.
1. Baphomet
In the 19th century, the name of Baphomet became associated with occult. Baphomet "The Sabbatic Goat", showing a winged humanoid goat with a pair of breasts and a torch on its head between its horns. This image has become the best-known representation of Baphomet.
"The goat on the frontispiece carries the sign of the pentagram on the forehead, with one point at the top, a symbol of light, his two hands forming the sign of hermetism, the one pointing up to the white moon of Chesed, the other pointing down to the black one of Geburah. Baphomet, as Lévi's illustration suggests, has occasionally been portrayed as a synonym of Satan or a demon, a member of the hierarchy of Hell. Christian evangelist Jack Chick claims that Baphomet is a demon worshipped by Freemasons.
George Washington, US and Freemason
2. Pentagram
Pentagrams were used symbolically in ancient Greece and Babylonia. The pentagram has magical associations, and many people who practice Neopagan faiths wear jewelry incorporating the symbol. Catholic once more commonly used the pentagram to represent the five wounds of Jesus, and it also has associations within Freemasonry.
The pentagram has long been associated with the planet Venus, and the worship of the goddess Venus, or her equivalent. It is also associated with the Roman word lucifer, which was a term used for Venus as the Morning Star, associated with the bringer of light and knowledge.
US Pentagon
US Republican Party (can you see the stars there?
Can you see also the word M-A-S-O-N there? Does US have relation with Freemason?
3. Satanic Salute
The "El Diablo" hand sign often is confused with the deaf hand signal of the phrase, "I love you." The person who invented or created this hand sign system for the deaf, Helen Keller, was herself an occultist and Theosophist. Did Keller purposely design the deaf's "I love you" sign to be such a remarkable imitation of the classic sign of Satan? Was Keller saying, basically, "I love you, Devil?" -Texe Marrs (See CODEX MAGICA).
Do you think it was coincidence? For me, it is difficult to give that sign unless I do it conciously, how about you? Do they really want to give message to others that understand? You should know about Freemason, Illuminati, Bilderberg Group, Skull and Bones Society, Council of Foreign Relationship, etc.
France President Sarcozy
Benny Hinn
Bill Clinton
Hillary Clinton
Silvio Berlusconi
King Abdullah and Putin
A Satanic Ritual
4. Inverted Cross
According to Exposing Satanism, the "Upside Down Cross - Symbolizes mockery and rejection of Jesus. Necklaces are worn by many satanist's. It can be seen on Rock singers and their album covers." A self-professed Satanist says-- The Baphomet is the official symbol of the Church Of Satan, but many Satanists use the inverted crossto symbolize their dislike of Christianity. It's modern meaning has came to mean "anti-Christian" and it is used and recognized as such in today's world.
Can you see inverted cross behind the Pope? Are Roman Catholic Church = Antichrist church?
5. Mother and Child Worship
The story of the mother and child was widely known in ancient Babylon and developed into an established worship. Numerous monuments of Babylon show the goddess mother Semiramis with her child Tammuz in her arms. When the people of Babylon were scattered to the various parts of the earth, they carried the worship of the divine mother and her child with them. This explains why many nations worshipped a mother and child in one form or another centuries before the true savior, Jesus Christ, was born into this world! In the various countries where this worship spread, the mother and child were called by different names, for, we will recall, language was confused at Babel.
The Chinese had a mother goddess called Shingmoo or the "Holy Mother." She is pictured with child in arms and rays of glory around her head.
The ancient Germans worshipped the virgin Hertha with child in arms. The Scandinavians called her Disa who was also pictured with a child. The Etruscans called her Nutria, and among the Druids the Virgo-Patitura was worshipped as the "Mother of God." In India, she was known as Indrani, who was also represented with child in arms.
The mother goddess was known as Aphodite or Ceres to the Greeks; Nana, to the Sumerians; and as Venus or Fortuna to her devotees in the olden days of Rome, and her child as Jupiter. At one time the mother and child were known as Devaki and Crishna. For ages, Isi, the "Great Goddess" and her child Iswara, have been worshipped in India where temples were erected for their worship.
In Asia, the mother was known as Cybele and the child as Deoius. "But regardless of her name or place", says one writer, "she was the wife of Baal, the virgin queen of heaven, who born fruit although she never conceived."
Mother and Child Worship
In Roman Catholic Church
6. Apollos (Sun god of Greek)
In Greek and Roman mythology, Apollo, is one of the most important and many-sided of the Olympian deities. The ideal of the kouros (a beardless youth), Apollo has been variously recognized as a god of light and the sun; truth and prophecy; archery; medicine and healing; music, poetry, and the arts; and more. Apollo is the son of Zeus and Leto, and has a twin sister, the chaste huntress Artemis. Apollo is known in Greek-influenced Etruscan mythology as Apulu. Apollo was worshipped in both ancient Greek and Roman religion, as well as in the modern Hellenic neopaganism.
Why there are a lot of sun symbols in that institution?
7. Egypt Sun god Ra
Ra (pronounced Rah) and sometimes as, Rê, is an ancient Egyptian sun god. By the fifth dynasty he became a major deity in ancient Egyptian religion, identified primarily with the mid-day sun, with other deities representing other positions of the sun. Ra changed greatly over time and in one form or another, much later he was said to represent the sun at all times of the day. The chief cult centre of Ra first was based in Heliopolis (ancient Inunu) meaning "City of the Sun."
Why Host must circle? Did Jesus break the bread in circle? What if that host is symbol of sun god, are you not being deceived to worship sun god by that institution?
Or why behind the head of Jesus and other saints there is always bright circle like sun again?
To tell you the truth, Roman Catholic church doesn't teach you what written in the Bible. They teach another Christ, another Jesus, another Peter, another Mary, etc. For them, God is cold hearted, you can't go to him by yourself. You need somebody to venerate for you. Do you want to know where that teaching came from?
8. Jupiter (king of gods)
In Roman mythology, Jupiter was the king of the gods, and the god of sky and thunder. He is the equivalent of Zeus in the Greek pantheon. He was called Iuppiter Optimus Maximus (Jupiter Best, Greatest); as the patron deity of the Roman state, he ruled over laws and social order. He was the chief god of the Capitoline Triad, with Juno and Minerva. In Latin mythology Jupiter is the father of the god Mars. Therefore, Jupiter is the grandfather of Romulus and Remus, the legendary founders of Rome. Jupiter was venerated in ancient Roman religion, and is still venerated in Religio Romana Neopaganism.
Who venerate to Jupiter? The answer is Venus.
In Roman Catholic : Mary
Can you see the cresent moon under Mary's feet and stars above her head? Why cresent moon and star? Do you still remember Baphomet picture with also cresent moon and star? Or do you remember Islam symbol? Is there any connection between Catholicism and Islam?
Islam Symbol
Who possess the position of Jupiter in Roman Catholic Church?
Jupiter
Peter (they made him as the first Pope)
9. Wheel of Sun
At left is a pagan sun wheel in the temple at Kararak India, which is associated with occultism and astrology. It resembles a chariot wheel doesn't it?
Why there is a big wheel in Vatican?
10. Obelisk
The obelisk symbolized the sun god Amon Re, and during the brief religious reformation of Akhenaten was said to be a petrified ray of the Aten, the sundisk. It was also thought that the god existed within the structure.
Again, why vatican has obelisk? Something must be wrong with this institution, right?
11. Dagon (Fish god)
Dagon was a major northwest Semitic god, reportedly of grain and agriculture. He was worshipped by the early Amorites and by the inhabitants of the cities of Ebla and Ugarit (which was an ancient city near the Mediterranean containing a large variety of ancient writings and pagan shrines). He was also a major member, or perhaps head, of the pantheon of the Biblical Philistines.
Triple deck hat
Ichthys (Greek: ἰχθύς, capitalized ΙΧΘΥΣ; also transliterated and Latinized as ichthys, icthus, ichthus or ikhthus; ichthus), is the Ancient and Classical Greek word for "fish." In English it refers to a symbol consisting of two intersecting arcs, the ends of the right side extending beyond the meeting point so as to resemble the profile of a fish, said to have been used by early Christians as a secret symbol.
Fishhead hat
And if you see the hat from above, you will see an eye.
Have you ever asked why the hat look like that? Don't be ignorant, my friends. You are in the wrong institution. Come out of her.
12. Eye of Horus
Horus was an ancient Egyptian sky god in the form of a falcon. The right eye represents a Peregrine Falcon's eye and the markings around it, that includes the "teardrop" marking sometimes found below the eye. As the wadjet (also udjat or utchat), it also represented the sun, and was associated with Horus' mother, Isis, and with Wadjet another goddess, as well as the sun deity Ra (Re).
Be careful with one eye symbol. This is the symbol of Masonic, One World Order, One World Order. They will try to make you compromise with your own faith, to accept difference among believers and unbelievers. Ecumenical Movement. I saw one Christian group use this symbol with cross in the apple of the eye and I read his article...full of compromise. You can go to his group pages, he has a lot of groups. Just be careful, little by little, his message will affect your faith and thinking. Hope you are aware now.
Can you see big eye there?
13. Animal (Lion) Worship
Maahes, God of War and Protection, The Leonine Lord of Slaughter
Maahes (Mahes, Mihos, Miysis, Mysis) was the ancient Egyptian lion-god of war. Both a god of war and a guardian and a lord of the horizon. He was believed to help Ra fight against Apep in the solar barque each night, a god who protected the pharaoh while he was in battle. By Greek times, he was attributed as being a god of storms and winds. He also had links to perfumes and oils. Maahes was a god who seems to have first appeared in the New Kingdom, and is thought to have been a deity of foreign origin.
Can you see 2 lions there?
And this is Monument to Pope Clement XIII. Can you see 2 lions too?
14. Ankh (Egypt Cross)
The ankh was the Egyptian hieroglyphic character that read "life," a triliteral sign for the consonants ˁ-n-ḫ. Egyptian gods are often portrayed carrying it by its loop, or bearing one in each hand, arms crossed over their chest. It is also known as the Egyptian Cross, the key of life, the key of the Nile, or as crux ansata, Latin for "cross with a handle".
The ankh appears to be associated with the Egyptian glyph for magical protection, sa. However, what the sign itself represents is disputed.
Catholic cross
Is not that the same?
15. Praying beads
Buddhist Praying beads
Prayer beads are traditionally used to keep count of the repetitions of prayers, chants or devotions by adherents of religion. Since the beads can be fingered in an automatic manner, they allow one to keep track of how many prayers have been said with a minimal amount of conscious effort, which in turn allows greater attention to be paid to the prayers themselves.
There are three widely accepted uses for prayer beads:
Repetition of the same devotion a set (usually large) number of times. This is the earliest form of prayer beads (the Japa Mala) and the earliest Christian form (the prayer rope). This is also the type in use by the Bahá'í Faith
Repetition of several different prayers in some pattern, possibly interspersed with or accompanied by meditations.
Meditation on a series of spiritual themes, e.g. Islam.
Catholic Rosary
Isaiah 1:15-16
And when you spread forth your hands, I will hide my eyes from you: yes, when you make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood. Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before my eyes; cease to do evil.
16. Swastika
The Swastika seems to have been first used in Neolithic India. Archaeological evidence of swastika-shaped ornaments dates from the Neolithic period. An ancient symbol, it occurs mainly in the cultures that are in modern day India and the surrounding area, sometimes as a geometrical motif (as in the Roman Republic and Empire) and sometimes as a religious symbol. It was long widely used in major world religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism.
Do you think that Hitler is atheist? Nope, he was a devoted Catholic. He killed the Jewish people because since long, the Jewish always resist this antichrist church to take control over Jerusalem.
Wow, priests were in cooperation with NAZI to kill Jewish people and Christian.
Pope was and is always like king of the earth. No wonder, they are called Vicar of Christ (Christ Representative). Do Bible said something about that? Nope, they are self proclaiming. We are part of the saints of Christ, not Pope. Every born again Christian are God's friends, God's children.
1 Peter 2:9-10
But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation,a peculiar people; that you should show forth the praises of him who has called you out of darkness into his marvelous light; Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
17. Sig Rune
The SS Sig Runes design was created in 1931 when Walter Heck, a Sturmführer in the SS, drew two reversed and inverted Sig Runes side by side and noticed the similarity to the initials of the SS. Heck sold the rights of the Sig Runes to the SS for 2.5 Reichsmarks, and the runes were quickly adopted as the insignia of the Schutzstaffel and became one of the most commonly used forms of SS unit insignia.
Marilyn Manson Concert
So, my friends. After you saw so many symbols up there. What you need to do is to always test the spirits and also don't exchange the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles (Romans 1:23)
There is much more in this then just symbols but connections with the occult. The connection to Baal worship and many other things. It also has a connection with the end times
There is much more in this then just symbols but connections with the occult. The connection to Baal worship and many other things. It also has a connection with the end times
Think it could easily fill many web pages to cover the full extent of the occult symbols with explanations. However, this is amongst the best introduction on this issue. If someone wanted to add the next installment, that would be appreciated. Would also appreciate a link to it.
WOW! you people are absolutely blind! Do you wanna know why your religion is so similar to the original religions of mankind? Have you ever possibly thought that maybe it was designed for control. and on top of that. its just an altered version of Pagan beliefs. nothing more. just CONTROL! oh wait. i forgot it also destroyed priceless history (evidence of the deception and defilement!).
jerickhu wrote on Sep 18, '08, edited on Sep 18, '08
wow..a lot of symbols. thanks. maybe we can add the image of Jesus Christ portrayed in the internet. I think a lot movies and pictures from the internet did not portray the image/ real face of Christ in the Bible. Does it matter bro?
wow..a lot of symbols. thanks. maybe we can add the image of Jesus Christ portrayed in the internet. I think a lot movies and pictures from the internet did not portray the image/ real face of Christ in the Bible. Does it matter bro?
Hi, my brother. Nobody knows the face of Jesus, Mary, Peter, etc since at that time no camera had been invented. =) In Paul's conversion, he didn't see Jesus by face or by human form, but in Light. The Bible said, 'For we walk by faith, not by sight (2 Corinthians 5:7).
If you search in internet, you will find that Mary has different forms (blonde, black hair, even she was Nigger too). People said, '"We saw Mary Apparition in Lourdes, Fatima, Medjugorje, etc" but their Mary was different each other, not exactly the same person, but they claimed, it is the same Mary. And then they reason, 'Mary is too glorious to be portrayed, no human talent can put her form in sketch, etc.' Quite funny, isn't it? Between blonde and black hair, there is a great gap, but they claim she must be Mary.
Another story, an illiterate man born in Arabic, he claimed that he was a messenger, the last prophet, almost killed by angel. Do you believe he can write the another bible, my brother? It can't be, right? Somebody must write that bible for him, and the person who wrote that bible is the real messenger, the Jesuit priest. But people reason, 'Because of his illiterate, but still our bible can be written, it must be from God. He must be the real prophet.' Jesus died for his people, this guy even after he died, need his people's prayers to go to heaven.
And the same thing happened to Jesus. RCC tried to make everything can be seen. Mary, Peter, saints, Jesus, angels, etc. I don't know which one is the right one. For me, my eyes are deceptive, I would rather live by faith. If somebody show me picture of Jesus in any form, I really don't care, and if somebody mock Jesus, God will punish them, not me. So, nothing to do with me. It doesn't matter for me, my brother.
I can use cross symbol, or picture of Jesus to help me to pass my message, but it doesn't mean that those pictures are Jesus. Your faith will testify to you that you see Jesus, you know Jesus is real, He is your friend, your Saviour, etc.
My brother, it is nice to know you. I saw one time in your MP that you have a lot of question about Bible, if you need help, you can ask me, I will do my best to help you. As iron sharpens iron, so a man sharpens the countenance of his friend.
Stand firm in your faith, my brother. God bless you
I believe that everybody has his own perspective, so I will not try to convince you through my words, brother. I let you judge by yourself.
If you don't mind, you can go to this website http://www.christianresearchservice.com/Benny_Hinn.htm. Or you can go to yahoo or google search engine, type "benny hinn false teaching", etc. If you only see about 1-500 article concerning that, you can neglect it since many people tried to discredit the man of God, but if the number is more than 20000, you should check what people said about him and his teaching, should you not?
Illuminati, Bilderberg, Skull and Bones, Freemason are group for politicians and rulers of the earth (economically and politically). And for the preachers and ministers, there is a secret group so called, Knight Templar. You can check it also in search engine and compare what those people said with your Bible.
I don't want to judge people by name, I will keep silent about them, but if they did something unbiblical, I will attack their wrongdoing, not their name. Hope I have answered your question, my brother.
Philippians 1:17-18 The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains. But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.
I believe that everybody has his own perspective, so I will not try to convince you through my words, brother. I let you judge by yourself.
If you don't mind, you can go to this website http://www.christianresearchservice.com/Benny_Hinn.htm. Or you can go to yahoo or google search engine, type "benny hinn false teaching", etc. If you only see about 1-500 article concerning that, you can neglect it since many people tried to discredit the man of God, but if the number is more than 20000, you should check what people said about him and his teaching, should you not?
Illuminati, Bilderberg, Skull and Bones, Freemason are group for politicians and rulers of the earth (economically and politically). And for the preachers and ministers, there is a secret group so called, Knight Templar. You can check it also in search engine and compare what those people said with your Bible.
I don't want to judge people by name, I will keep silent about them, but if they did something unbiblical, I will attack their wrongdoing, not their name. Hope I have answered your question, my brother.
Philippians 1:17-18 The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains. But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.
God bless you.
Ur right let God judge...But as for as for me I knew he is a man sent from God.Because of his many miracles people accuse him and write false information. Anyone on internet can write true or false stories. As for the salute is concerned.....The pic shows him going to lift his hand which has paused in slow motion and made a big fuss.Sorry abt that lets not judge leaders.Didnt want to hurt you...My opinion....
Ur right let God judge...But as for as for me I knew he is a man sent from God.Because of his many miracles people accuse him and write false information. Anyone on internet can write true or false stories. As for the salute is concerned.....The pic shows him going to lift his hand which has paused in slow motion and made a big fuss.Sorry abt that lets not judge leaders.Didnt want to hurt you...My opinion....
You don't need to say sorry, my brother. Everybody has his own freewill and thinking. But please don't see miraculous power as a sign of man of God, you will regret someday later.
I tell you the fact. Not long ago, there was an evangelist brought revival in US through healing ministry, but after the 'revival fire' gone, after many people believed that he was man of God. He wanted to divorce his wife and known to have affair. Can you imagine the feeling of believers who already think that he was man of God? What unbelievers will think about him? Was he not a stumbling block? You don't have to answer my question. =)
For me, what makes a man as man of God is his words, his behaviour. People can see the Spirit of God dwells inside him. Man of God is man of integrity, he must stand firm between God and His people. God's Word written in Bible is the full of authority, and man of God must submit to it and handle the word of truth correctly.
God bless you abundantly, my brother chowi. Have a nice day.
WOW, AND I MEAN WOW, SO MUCH TO TAKE IN, AND THE SYMBOLS, THE HAND ONE THAT THE US PRESIDENTS AND OTHERS DO, DOYOU THINK THEY ARE THE SECRET SOCIETY PROTECTING THE ANTICHRIST? I AM REPULICAN, DO TO THE MORALS AND MAINLY TO KEEP GOD IN AMERICAN, DEMOCRATS ARE FOR TAKING IN GOD WE TRUST OFF THE MONEY AND FOR GAY MARRYINGS, AND ABORTION. ALL THAT AGAINST GOD. WOW, WHAT WAS THAT WITH HANNA MONTANA, SHE SAYS SHE IS CHRISTIAN ALONG WITH HER DAD, DO YOU THINK THEY JUST THINK THAT MEANS I LOVE YOU IN DEAF, WE DONT KNOW, BUT PRAY THEY DO. YOU JUST BLOW ME AWAY WITH ALL THIS INFORMATION AND I APPRECIATE IT, AND I NEVER EVEN GOT THROUGH ONE OF BENNY HINNS SHOWS, I JUST NEVER FELT THE LORD WITH HIM, SO I NEVER WATCHED IT. TRUE CHRISTIANS CAN FEEL THE SPIRIT IN PREACHERS, AND HE DOES NOT FEEL FILLED WITH IT. WOW SO MUCH ON CATHOLIC AND THE SYMBOLS, THAT IS WHY I LEFT THE CHURCH WHEN I WAS 11 YRS OLD, I NEVER FELT JESUS THERE, BUT HE WAS IN MY HEART. THANKS ALVIN, SO MUCH, LOVE YOU KEEP UP THE SHOWINGS OF WHAT MOST OF US DONT KNOW, IT SURE HELPS SO WE CAN SHARE, LOVE YOU, VEE
alvinsu wrote on Sep 19, '08, edited on Sep 25, '08
About Benny Hinn, I can't feel the spirit in him too. So I never listen to his sermon. But I don't want to say a lot about him. For me, as long as Christ is preached, either by true of false motive, I rejoice.
My sister, American Presidential Election is like another reality show. This world are ruled by only a few people, gathered in secret society like that. It doesn't matter who will win the election, the power must rule. Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King were killed because the vote not as planned by this secret society.
And in Roman Catholic Church too, you will notice that there was a Pope that only rule for 33 days. It happened because there is something greater who worked behind the scene, if you are not agree with them, you will die. This societies, power, rulers will persecute born again Christian soon. We are on end times.
To know more about man behind the scene, you can read Bible Revelation in http://alvinsu.multiply.com/journal/item/226/. I just believe in what Bible said. I don't want to be deceived any longer by reality show of world event and history, etc. E.g: the NAZI story is not the one that was taught in my high school. But pictures can't lies. I was taught that Hitler was a psycho, hate Jew without reason, etc.
Sorry for blowing you again, my sister. And I believe that my another writing will blow you too. =) God bless you
Good article Alvin thanks for posting, we can never warn each other enough, cos even the bible says, that in the end time (now) many will be deceived. we need to be warned about false teachings and satanic symbols, other wise we will use them thinking we are doing something good, but will end up being in bondage by demons. Shalom and blessings , Aukina. About Benny Hinn? I have been in his meetings, and I found him repulsive, not a man of GOD at al, be aware of false teachers,cos there are many and the bible warns us against false signs and wonders and miracles, not all that appears to be a miracle really is, look at Moses in Egypt, the baal priest did miracles as well,
Yes, my sister. I am agree with you. Many will prophecy in Jesus' name, drive demons, perform many miracles. But they are evildoer, agent of darkness. Not known by Jesus.
Matthew 7:21-23 “Not everyone who keeps saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will get into the kingdom of heaven, but only the person who keeps doing the will of my Father in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, we prophesied in your name, drove out demons in your name, and performed many miracles in your name, didn't we?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you evildoers!’
I, through my article, want to give warning to others to always test the spirits. I hope they will prepare themselves with armor of God, faith and word of God, salvation, etc. God bless you, my sister.
Amen Alvin .We need to fill our self's with the word of GOD, other wise we will fall. May the love and protection of GOD our FATHER in heaven for always surround you and your loved ones sweetie.. and YES!! we need the armor of GOD absolutely,Amen! Love Shalom and blessings, Aukina.
Symbol means something and it represent something and yes it might interpreted in the other way which is different from the real meaning of the Symbol like the Holy Scriptures...
alvinsu wrote on Sep 20, '08, edited on Sep 20, '08
What do you think about the symbols used in your church? does my article mean something to you? E.g: Mother and Child Worship, Sun worship, Jupiter and Venus? Or even Mitre, and Monstrance? Have you ever asked why there are a lot of statues in your church, even skull and tomb, etc? Do you have Bible support for the shape of Pope's hat or even Pope himself?
I know for inverted cross, you will answer it is Peter's cross. And for Holocaust, you will say that Catholics were among them too and in history class, they teach that Hitler wasn't a devoted Catholic. But, I can see from the pictures that RCC helped Nazi. Have the thought ever crossed your mind that it is possible that the church you are in right now is not the real and true church, but antichrist church, full of paganism and tradition of men?
Sorry if it seem I offended you. For sometimes, people choose to defend themselves even though they knew something is wrong with them, rather than being sure that his belief for all of his life is false. I hope you are a wise man not a fool. God bless you
no you dont offend me at all.. =) i have one question for you.. do you celebrate December 25 as the Birth of Christ.. or do you celebrate Christmas?
I celebrated Christmas once I was in my country. But now, I don't do that anymore, I like holiday and usually I go to have retreat with my church on 25 December, not to celebrate the baby born, but to strengthen our faith, to enjoy the holiday. =) For me everyday is the same.
Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods. But now that you know God -- or rather are known by God -- how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable principles? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again? You are observing special days and months and seasons and years! I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you (Galatians 4:8-11).
Once again, I like holiday, I like when Christmas, Easter, etc comes. But I didn't celebrate it as the people around the world do. Jesus was not born on 25 December. Everybody knows about that. Santa Claus never came to our house, everybody knows about that too. So why should I celebrate on 25 December? Everyday I praise and worship God. I hope I answer your question. God bless you
For my humble opinion, not of the whole Church,,, Before Christ came into the World, every thing seems to be wrong, and when Christ came into the world the Humanity is justified!... those backgrounds of paganism simply describe how Christ transformed Humanity from being sinful (pagan) into Justified Humans (Christianity)
For my humble opinion, not of the whole Church,,, Before Christ came into the World, every thing seems to be wrong, and when Christ came into the world the Humanity is justified!... those backgrounds of paganism simply describe how Christ transformed Humanity from being sinful (pagan) into Justified Humans (Christianity)
If paganism has been justified by Jesus, should we come back to that Paganism? Or should we put Jesus as our focus? Not His mother, not His angels, not saints, but Jesus only. Is it not good for you too, you don't risk yourself being an idolater if you only focus on Jesus, on God, not to human or any celestial beings, is it not?
oic,, yeah everyday is the day that The Lord Has Made Let us Rejoice and Be Glad in it.. i really appreciate your answers... =)
i just want to share something,, i found this one
Maria - Kwannon During the long years of persecution, it was forbidden under penalty of death to have any christian objects. The Japanese Christians could not resign themselves to being without images of Mary and used instead statuettes of Kwannon, the Buddist goddest of mercy, engraved sometimes with a small cross.
-those are symbols of Faith emerged from Paganism... they risk their life for those symbols, if the Japanese officials found out that those images are of Christian Characters, they will be killed,,, those images are just a symbol of Faith and Hope and i think those are not idolatry,,, true love and knowledge of God is not based on what we know but how we live our Faith, how we love Jesus, as Paul said...
1 Corinthians 13:8-10 Love never fails; but if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part; 10 but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away.
those are symbols of Faith emerged from Paganism... they risk their life for those symbols, if the Japanese officials found out that those images are of Christian Characters, they will be killed,,, those images are just a symbol of Faith and Hope and i think those are not idolatry,,, true love and knowledge of God is not based on what we know but how we live our Faith, how we love Jesus, as Paul said...
That's your thought. This is what the Bible said, 'Athough they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than Creator --- who is forever praised. Amen.
Although they know God's righteous degree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also APPROVE of those who practice them (Romans 1:22-23. 25, 32).
Hope you understand that Scripture and stop approving what they did. For the Bible also said, 'You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not BOW DOWN to them or worship them, for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me (Exodus 20:4-5)
If you think God is merciful, you are absolutely right, but you should also know that He is a JEALOUS GOD, no idols at all.
So my brother. You should choose whether you want to obey God or you appove their wrongdoing and continue with your sacred tradition or paganism. For I tell you, Roman Catholic Church is Antichrist Church, full of Paganism. I just can help you by praying. Open your eyes and see. God bless you
ALVIN, YA KNOW I FORGOT TO TELL YOU ABOUT OPRAH, 2 YRS AGO I WAS LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO HELP ME TO SPREAD THE WORD OUT THAT HAD ALOT OF CONTACT WITH TH E PUBLIC, THINKING OPRAH WAS CHRISTIAN I WROTE HER AND ASKED FOR HER HELP. I NEVER GOT A REPLY, AND WHAT I NEEDED HELP ON ALSO WAS LIGHT UP THE SKY FOR JESUS, SOMETHING I THOUGHT UP ABOUT 5 YRS AGO BUT NO ONE EVER REPLYED TO HELP LIKE CHURCHES, ECT. I HAD THIS IDEA OF ONE DAY A YEAR ALL OVER THE WORLD CHRISTIANS WOULD COME TOGETHER AND LIGHT FIREWORKS IN THE SKY TO SHOW OUR LOVE FOR JESUS, AND ALL NEIGHBORS COULD DO IT AND BIG CITIES COULD DO IT AND HOPING LOST SOULS WOULD SEE THE LOVE WE HAVE FOR EACH OTHER AND THEM. I KNOW IT WAS A LONG SHOT, BUT IT MAKES ME MAD THAT WE CELEBRATE NEW YEARS LIKE THAT AND WE SHOULD BE THANKING THE LORD FOR A NEW YEAR NOT BLACK EYED PEAS AND CHAMPAIN, BUT LOVE AND CARING AND LIGHTING UP THE SKY ALL OVER IN CELEBRATION OF THE KING OF KINGS!! I KNOW NOW IT IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH THE WAY IT IS SO CLOSE TO THE END TIMES, THEY WOULD NEVER APPROVE IT, BUT WHAT I WANTED WAS OPRAH TO GET IT GOING, NO WONDER I NEVER GOT AN ANSWER, I T REALLY HURTS ALL THE BLESSINGS THE LORD HAS GIVEN HER SHE HAS TURNED FROM HIM. I PRAY FOR HER THAT SHE WILL GO BACK TO JESUS, WOW, WHAT IS NEXT WITH THE EVIL ONE., WELL ONE THING I CAN SAY IT WONT BE LONG BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT THE NEXT HEART BREAKING NEWS. JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT ALVIN, I CHOSE THE WRONG ONE TO THINK SHE WOULD HELP, LOVE VEE
alvinsu wrote on Sep 20, '08, edited on Sep 20, '08
My sister, Bible wrote that anytime Jesus did a lot of miraculous signs and wonders, people flock onto Him. They didn't want to listen to His Gospel, they just cared about their stomach, their healing, their deliverance, etc. One day 5000 men followed Him. But in the next day, when they expected Jesus to give them physical food, but because Jesus knew their heart, He didn't give them physically food, but spiritual food, He said, 'I am bread of Life' you need to eat me which mean 'Eat the Word'. All the people left Him, said 'This is the hard teaching. Who can accept it?" Only the 12 apostles left behind.
From that story, I want you to be careful with multitude of people. Jesus said, many will try to enter the narrow gates but only a few who find it. And even in the book of Revelation, multitude of people will worship beasts and dragon. For your comparison, in old time, from millions of people in Noah's time, only 8 were saved or in Sodom and Gomorrah, only Lot, and 2 his daughters, since his wife failed, got saved. And in the exile to Babylon, God reserved only 7000 people, so also in the end times about Isrealite. There will only 144000 people from 7.2 millions of Israelites today. Our time as Gentile will end up soon as the Israelite had experienced their hardening time. You can see now that many Messianic Jew have come to their senses about Jesus is the Messiah. Our time is up, my sister. Yes, we are on end times. Jesus is coming soon
Bible also warn us not to love the world. If you watch in my videos about backmasking music, videos, etc. You will suprise that devil has infilterated in every aspect of our life. Just like you said about Benny Hinn, people like him since he always talks about Financial Freedom, Love of God, God wants you to succeed, etc. He is good in satisfying people's itching ears. Oprah also the same like him. She introduced New Age Movement.
We need to equip ourselves with Word of God, my beloved sister. We need to stand firm in our faith. Bible also said, if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is Christ! or 'There he is!' Don't believe it. For false Christ and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect - if that possible (Matthew 24:23-24)
You should aware that in US there was a Lakeland Revival, Todd Bentley said he met Christ, etc. Or other said, he spoke with Christ for months, or other said he saw Jesus' face, his eyes are so brown, etc. Don't believe him. As you know, people still flock to Florida, got healed, etc, even the very elect believe that too. But not long after that, you also hear that Todd Bentley has an affair and want to divorce his wife.
I want to say that if you see many people flock to the church or read the best seller book about Christianity, or watch TV Program, etc. You should carefully follow what the message they try to pass. So that you will not be deceived. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown, my sister. God bless you. Sorry for the long reply. =)
ALVIN IN YOUR COMMENTS BACK TO ME, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I WILL NEVER BELIEVE ANY FALSE PROPHET, I AM ONLY FOR OUR FATHER AND HIS SO JESUS CHRIST WHO DIED FOR OUR SINS, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. WELL, THE BIBLE, IS ALL I NEED AND NO FALSE TEACHER WILL EVER COME NEAR ME. WHAT I MEANT IN MY LETTER WAS BEFORE OPRAH GOT ITNTO THIS EVIL, I WAS HOPING SHE WOULD HELP ME THINKING SHE WAS A TRUE CHRISTIAN AND THEN COME TO FIND OUT NOT AT ALL. THAT IS WHY I NEVER GOT A REPLY FOR HER HELP TO PRAISE JESUS ALL OVER THE WORLD. I JUST DIDNT WANT YOU TO MISUNDERSTAND MY LETTER BEFORE. THANKS MY BROTHER, LOVE YOU, VEE
ALVIN IN YOUR COMMENTS BACK TO ME, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I WILL NEVER BELIEVE ANY FALSE PROPHET, I AM ONLY FOR OUR FATHER AND HIS SO JESUS CHRIST WHO DIED FOR OUR SINS, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. WELL, THE BIBLE, IS ALL I NEED AND NO FALSE TEACHER WILL EVER COME NEAR ME. WHAT I MEANT IN MY LETTER WAS BEFORE OPRAH GOT ITNTO THIS EVIL, I WAS HOPING SHE WOULD HELP ME THINKING SHE WAS A TRUE CHRISTIAN AND THEN COME TO FIND OUT NOT AT ALL. THAT IS WHY I NEVER GOT A REPLY FOR HER HELP TO PRAISE JESUS ALL OVER THE WORLD. I JUST DIDNT WANT YOU TO MISUNDERSTAND MY LETTER BEFORE. THANKS MY BROTHER, LOVE YOU, VEE
My sister, sorry for misunderstanding. I know that you have a very pure heart for Christ. I also have the same mind like you. Not long ago, not too far from the city of mine, we had a firework, thousands of people came and saw it. They drunk, kissed on the street, etc and they amazed when they saw that beautiful firework. Then after that, they went to celebrate that night by partying, wild night life.
It is sad that people are like that, never think about their salvation, their eternity even just for a second. I also wished that I know somebody who are influencial and born again Christian, so that we can cooperate together and make a plan to gather multitude of people and the whole audience come to praise and worship God. I would like to see that in my life.
I have a personal dream, I want that Indonesian people gather together in the biggest stadion in my country and they come not to watch football, not to entertain themselves, but to look for God's Presence. I long to see that happened. When I saw the Revival in US, I was challanged, but I also had a little disappointment when I knew that was a false revival.
I want to see revival with my own eyes. Thousands of people surrender their life to Jesus. My sister, I would like to encourage you more and more. Keep that burden in your heart. John Knox, the person who brought revival in Scotland, he said to God, "Give me Scotland or I die". And because God saw the desire of his heart, the burden in his heart, He gave him.
God will raise you up, my sister. Just continue to be faithful, and don't be surprise that someday God will raise you up more than Oprah. Nothing is impossible for those who believe God. We can do it. Where 2 or 3 people gather together, God dwell in their midst. Amen. God bless you, my sister.
thank you, my brother/sister(?). Praise be to God who give me this wisdom. I am just faithful servant who love God with all my heart. Jesus is my Lord. God bless you abundantly.
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Yes brother, it is so wonderful to see the Spirit of the Lord upon you. Isaiah 11. As i saw the fellowship and read what everyone said, i just want to thank the Lord God Almighty that His Heart can be seen in your actions. The King of king's Heart - a Humble Servant's heart. Our Lord Jesus Christ said that anyone who wants to be the greatest must be a servant, in God's Kingdom that is the greatest person. May we all allow God to mold us, so that we might get a servant Heart like His, because He resists the proud and arrogant, but gives grace to the Humble. "the person who bows before their Heavenly Father and Eternal Creator, will be able to stand before any other person" Love in our Lord Jesus Christ
Woooooo I LOVE YOU MARILYN MANSON!! You're fucking amazing! ANTICHRIST SVPERSTAR IS THE BEST! I love you cuz I'm GAY! Fuck all you Christians ahaha. My parents are Christian, they call me a piece of shit and tell me to kill myself. They also say God tells them to say that. WHY SHOULD I CALL MY SELF A CHRISTIAN. Anyways.... ilove you Marilyn Manson. You're the best. I found this page via Google images. And btw, Catholics are fucking cunts l0l. Long Live Marilyn Manson Long Live Marilyn Manson. Hey all of you Bible eaters guess what... Marilyn Manson has a song where he burns a cross. I guess he's going to hell :( I guess I am too... I guess y'all are too.
I PRAY FOR YOU MIMRAN15, HOW SAD, GOD LOVE YOU SO MUCH AND YOU MUST NOT WANT LOVE,,GOD IS LOVE ,,HE LOVES YOU SO MUCH THAT HE SENT HIS ONLY SON TO DIE FOR YOUR SINS SO YOU CAN HAVE ETERNAL LIFE OF LOVE AND HAPPINESS,,,I LOVE AND PRAY FOR YOU,,PLEASE, READ THE BIBLE ,,FIND JESUS,,LIVE A FULLFILLED LIFE THROUGH HIM,,DONT YOU FEEL LONELY AND LOST,,,SAD,,VEE
King Abdullah and Putin 
A Satanic Ritual
Islam Symbol
There is much more in this then just symbols but connections with the occult. The connection to Baal worship and many other things. It also has a connection with the end times 
